It's not you Nitrux so you can rest, for now... So I had been playing with |Fs|Princess for the last few days and even though she made some suspicious movements I just was too lazy to watch her. However, yesterday in the morning I was playing with Pepin (Master Haxor) on Fs server, map was Children and we were in suspects, we caught the VIP in the basement here: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/92/c1vc.png, to prevent SWAT from respawning at the basement, I went inside their spawn and hid next to the washing machines here: http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/801/c2hs.png I stayed there waiting for most of the 2 mins when suddenly a gas grenade falls next to me and after that came Princess with the handcuffs ready to arrest. Now, for me this proved two things: first, she was using a wallhack, there was absolutely no way to know I was there so she must have seen me through the wall, most likely saw my name through the wall and since I always wear helmet she came prepared to arrest 'cause she knew I would be gassed, second, she is a noob, arresting whilst VIP is arrested duh..

After that I decided to make a video and with the help of a Fs admin I was able to be on her team and watch her. I have like 25GB of video, but these two are more than enough to make a point, especially the second.

First Video
At around 0:10 you can see how the bullets hit the same spot in the red van without any recoil whatsoever. At around 0:22 you can tell how she noticed someone coming from backway garage, too far to hear footsteps, the fatty hadn't kill anyone so no way to tell by a team cam. In fact, there were 6 players on swat at that moment, 4 at front, she and me (VIP), the other 4 guys were unable to see the incoming guy from backway because as you can see they are busy at front, meaning she couldn't either, at least not using team cams.

Second Video
Ok so this is easily the best and funniest video I've made when catching a radar hacker. I was the VIP and hid, if you look at the chat you can see how everyone is looking for me, X9 is asking the VIP to be changed, kamilo is asking me if I want to be changed etc. When she spawned she starts saying "where is the VIP?", so obviously her radar is too far to find me. When she gets closer she can "see" me and she comes directly to my hiding spot. Now the funniest thing is that since I was saying "Need help", she thought I was arrested and got her tool out way before she could ACTUALLY see me. If you don't agree this is indisputable evidence of radar then you are either a noob, a radar user, a combination of both or you just cant look past "her" pictures.

Also, I couldn't care less if she gets kicked from Fs or not. However, I asked Fs for her IP so she can be banned from FAB but I have yet to hear back from them.

And forgive me HIGOR for using your name!!

Agreed. The first time i played with her, i knew that. Its easy to tell when someone just makes the use of radar so "obvious"

But since, people nowadays just need so called "proof" i dont really give a shit even bothering to let people know whos cheating.

Good proof, i caught her today too.

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who deleted my second post, where i said matter solved -.-

Haha, nice. Well I've never played with her but watching the second video it does seem a little strange she finds the vip in the darkness there and has her tool out ready walking round the corner. I like to see cheaters getting caught. Gj glamour life.

I'm not shy. I told Shiro and Leito before.

Shiro and I agreed she'd say exactly that but ffs Baxter don't be so naive, this is not like when Kit posted HIS radar screenshot, after all he was just a 10 yo kid and he eventually left in shame. This is a grown up woman we are talking, 28 yo to be precise, she would have to be badly mentally handicapped not to realize cheating is a bad thing, how can you think is normal to see players' names through the wall?. In fact, I found a few other interesting things in the videos. Before we were switched to SWAT, this guy Jaio accused her of radar, her answers shows she is fully aware of what a radar is, and her defensive tone shows she knows is a bad thing. You can check the servers log if you want.

Anyhow, it's up to you to let cheaters in your clan, none of my business. I would, however, appreciate her IP.

Really kirby? Do i need to bring up Kit? the FAB member that posted a screen shot of the radar screen that "he cant see" ? did you forget about him? And as i see it Kit is still in FAB.

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Kit: A kid who innocently posted a topic titled "hehe WHo can beat Kit Power!" with a radar screenshot.

Princess: A 28 yo player, who, by her own words, is a "very experienced barricaded suspects player". She was CAUGHT using a radar/wallhack and no recoil, BEFORE she was caught she was fully aware of what a radar is and its illegality.

And seriously I would understand if this was a member like Ninja, Shiro or Pela, but someone who joined a couple of weeks ago...

The fact that you just want to make this topic on me shows your lack of judgment. If you want to make things personal so be it, I lost all my respect for you when you let a hacker joined your clan in exchange for a european server, that's as low as you can get. After all the rubbish and accusation those people said about you and your clan, you just changed your mind overnight, no dignity, no principles, no respect for yourself or your own members.

And I have said it a million times, I couldn't care less what people over the internet think about me. If people think I am a 50 yo fat pervert who lives in Columbia, I don't care. I see online gaming as a form of entertainment, just like watching a movie, not as an online dating form, and joining a clan generally makes it more fun, of course you have to deal with the clan drama. And unlike your Princess, I have plenty of attention in real life, I don't need nor I seek it online. I don't cheat, never have and never will, people calling me hacker shows just how good I am.

And oh yeah I will definitely stay away from your server and your forums, I don't tolerate any form hacking/cheating, so feel free to ban me for catching one of your members hacking.

I believe the problem now is if the person in question knowingly does it.

If what kirby says is true, I would like to see the conversation in which the person replies


and saying that kirby has been suspected of cheating is different

It is because she is more or less...decent (alright, good ) and not because of no recoil or finding vip with handcuffs..

Kirby isn't accusing the person of cheating due to score/kills, she is accusing based on the fact that the person seems to have KNOWINGLY cheated due to position/no recoil

In the case of KIT, I do believe he didn't know, I didn't even see the radar (I don't know cheats) at first, he has admitted, apologized, and quite frankly, I don't think it is fair to punish him, because he really didn't know (look at his scores, it's more or less normal)


The only way to settle this IMO, is to see if the player knew it or not (Kirby says yes), if yes, then this discussion is over
If no... then I don't know what to think

I'll step in here and add a few things to these comments.

We had the same situation with Nitrux, Ohdarn and Kirby. A talented player with a sub 100 ping joins and suddenly people get suspicious because from time to time they get killed before someone even appears in a door or whatever else. So they assume that person is using radar.

The members who accused Kirby, Ohdarn and Nitrux all stopped their accusations not long ater. Occasionally the odd member remains suspicious longer term, however that's their own prerogative. As long as they don't whine on about it or cause problems people can think whatever they like.

I saw a video I was sent on msn when Kirby joined by someone who believed Kirby might be cheating. I saw absolutely nothing in it that made me think she was cheating and said so. The person in question I know did not maintain their views in the long run.

This is a different situation, in that there is strong evidence of Princess cheating. There never was any evidence at all that Kirby or either of the two players listed above cheated, just speculative nonsense. The 2nd video on Princess is about as damming as you can get.

I've yet to play on a server where my ping is below 100 and not be accused of cheating. So of course if I hear someone wildly speculating my first thought is that before someone goes mouthing off getting excited they need to have a much more reasonable approach. To look at the situation objectively and remove their temperament. That doesn't mean I have or I should have sympathy for people who actually cheat though. I have none. I have even less for those who have supposedly reached adulthood and feel the need to cheat.

As for Kit/Princess, Kirby has already said it all. The fact that Princess is now using your "game files" Baxter sounds like an admission of guilt.

In conclusion may Higor be a beacon for justice throughout the land of SWAT until his drug/sex fuelled death. Amen

comparing my case

fuck, it takes years to be able to post in here ffs

look everybody knows fs has hackers nothing new here

pela and blue are the obvious ones but you can bet there are others like this princess

i played in fs in the weekend and she was playing there and it was clear this person still hacks and yet fs noob admins cant notice it or simply dont care... hell i dont understand why she hasnt been banned in the first place, wtf are they waiting for? for her to be as stupid as kit and post a picture?... one more proof of how fs handles hackers, they recruit them or let them play, fking noobs

and kirby baby, i may love your sexy british accent but im almost sure when you joined fab you cheated, remember how you arrested me with your wallhack in librarys server and brewers phones? despite I was totally out of sight?...well i do and I dont buy your shadows bs, youre lucky i lost the video or you would be as fucked as princess... though i have to admit ive been watching you now and i think you have stopped and thats why your scores are not as high as before, nevertheless a hacker will always be a hacker so f u for calling me noob

Are you kidding me?

Yes, I agree with kirby that princess is more or less a cheater

but to imply that Fs tolerates hackers?...that's really low

FYI, I played with blue before, he is a good player, I never seen him hack

unless you have proof, don't accuse, Kirby isn't ACCUSING, she is using proof
Just beacause you get killed does not mean someone is a cheater

and about Kirby, her scores are always pretty high, I highly doubt they have changed much.

Do not accuse FAB or Fs of hacking/cheating unless you have solid proof
In fact, do not accuse ANYONE of cheating unless you have proof

and I truly don't think that comparing kit to this guy is fair
He didn't know (he posted his screenshot FFS), he didn't have a outrageous high score, no one before was accusing him of cheating, and quite frankly, I didn't even see the radar at first (I don't know about these stuff)